Welcome to the party Wisconsin; on Thursday afternoon, Governor Jim Doyle officially signed Senate Bill 290, his autograph made Wisconsin the 43^rd state to regulate the sport of mixed martial arts.

In what has been an extremely smooth process, the MMA safety regulations rocketed through the state’s legal system.  After being introduced in mid September, Senate Bill 290 took less than five months to become an official bill.

“This process actually went really quick,” said Mark Ratner, the Vice President of Regulatory Affairs with the Ultimate Fighting Championship.  “I was very impressed with everyone involved.  We had a wonderful lobbyist and I am very pleased with the entire process here in Wisconsin.”

The bill, which borrowed heavily from an already existing version of Wisconsin’s boxing regulations, was created in large part to ensure the safety of the area’s fighters.

According to the new regulations, each combative participant must now provide proof of adequate health insurance, be examined before and after each match, attend regular physicals, and be tested for banned substances.

Along with the mandatory blood work and proper medical testing, Senate Bill 290 also requires promoters to adhere to certain safety standards.  A physician and ambulance must be present during each match, and all judges and referees must be properly licensed.

“This is a great day in Wisconsin for all current and future fighters,” said United States Fighting Championship co-owner Scott Joffe.  “It took a lot of people collectively to get this bill passed.  I would like to thank everyone of those people who came together in support of a bill that is really all about protecting the fighters.”

As well as requiring promoters to provide licensed officials, physicians, and ambulances, the new bill also enacts a few other regulations.

• Each promoter now needs to be licensed
• Promoters must pay an annual fee depending on size of city population and ticket cost
• A department appointed inspector must be present at all shows to oversee that rules and standards are followed
• Matchmakers, managers, refs, examining physicians, and professional fighters must be licensed

According to the highly respected Ratner, Governor Doyle’s decision to approve Senate Bill 290 will create a much higher quality of MMA into Wisconsin.

“With the regulations you will now have medicals, insurance, and trained officials,” said Ratner.  “And that is the stuff that is so important.  Now you will also see better matchmaking which will make for a better overall experience.”

Since the introduction in September, very little resistance to the bill has been made publicly.  Besides Freestyle Combat Challenge promoter Dave Strasser, the state’s most highly respected personalities have solidly backed the proposed bill.

Chosen Few’s Pat O’Malley, Roufusport’s Duke Roufus, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt Dr. Tim Westlake are just a few of the notable names who have gone on record to announce their support of the newly signed bill.

“I am excited, relieved, and curious,” said Roufus after the bill was signed.  “Wisconsin MMA is going to change drastically now.  It wasn’t that people (promoters) didn’t want to do the right things before, but now we all need to do what we are supposed to do.”

As well as creating a safer environment for local fighters, the passing of Senate Bill 290 also opens the door for some of the major organizations to come to the state.  Ratner disclosed that the UFC has been eyeing the Badger state for some time.

“We’ve been looking at Wisconsin for the last couple of months,” said Ratner.  “Right now we want the commission to be going, we want the commission to have a staff, and we want the commission to have trained referees.  We’re serious about coming here.”

On Thursday, the state of Wisconsin became the 43^rd state to officially have the sport of mixed martial arts regulated.  The brand new bill offers a world of possibilities that excites Senator Dave Hansen.

“This sport is growing by leaps and bounds,” said Hansen.  “You can either regulate or do nothing, and it only made sense to regulate.  By regulating, we can bring the top flight competition here, draw great cards, and provide a lot of economic drive for the state of Wisconsin.”

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Paul Metz said:

So what's next? So what is the process to getting the certifications and licenses? How does a manager, promoter, ref and all other positions get what is needed? Also, as far as the health insurance goes, where is an athelte gonna find coverage that is affordable? Lastly, who is in charge of the commission and who do we contact? A lot of questions, I know. But, I would like to get my 'ducks' in a row asap. We have a lot of fights coming up. TY

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mike biddle said:

	... i also have these same questions i supported the bill but i have a feeling we are in for a bumpy ride for the first year
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Paul Fladten said:

... from what i was told, there is a six month period for Pedro Colon (I think Pedro) to get the commission in place. I also heard that he was taking a look at what rules to impose during fights, but it would make no sense if he didn't just adopt the unified rules. i plan on getting a full update on this very soon, and when i do i will make sure to create an article examining all pieces of the new regulation. thanks guys.

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Moriel Charneski said:

	... I'm questioning this also... where will affordable health insurance come from? In other states (ohio i think is one) The fight event has to have insurance to cover injuries sustained during the fight. Do the basics, like badgercare, even cover sports injuries?
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Perry Murphy said:

	Trainer I'm curious to see who will get the important jobs that actually regulate the sport and how those people are appointed,elected,etc. As asked above I too have the very same questions.Insurance for fighters is gonna be a big one.
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Petrus de Vries said:

	... This is going to cost the smaller promotors and fightrs a lot of money and will force many fighters to just stop fighting. The Rule Makers need to tred causiously to work on not following IL's example. Lets hope and pray that this will not follow national politics and go down the drain just because people wanted to see the UFC in WI.
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brian learn said:

... this sucks! we made it more difficult for the fighters and litlle shows. i hope it wasn't to just get the ufc here when the ufc comes around there is no need for the casual fans to check a small local show every now and again why would they they now will have the "real deal" to check out. before we were the closest they had, and now how much bs will i go through and how many hoops will i jump just to fight. no more filling in on short notice, if you have fought with in 30 days of that fight. even if you go in sub him quick and untouched and you are able and willing to fight again the next weekend, kinda ridiculous. you ppl didnt think this through you got all humpty dumpty about passing it when you heard ufc. what about us the ppl that were doin fine and makin a living doin what we love? now we will have non mma lovin ppl takin over cause they see the $$$ in it, we couldn't govern ourselves? we had to get "the man" involved to get his share? this is sad. I just wanna fight

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Moriel Charneski said:

... Exactly... I'm not thrilled about this at all! It could have been a good thing but I don't think it's been thought through too well. I agree, I just want to fight. I think if they are seriously going to implement the need for insurance that covers fight injuries, then the commission should take it upon themselves to negotiate with insurance companies for specific coverage that fighters can realistically pay for.

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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... Regulation is good for the sport....it legitimizes the fights in WI and protects the atheletes from fly by night promotions that care about the $$$ and not the participants. Glad to see this has finally happened!
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Greg Perry said:

... All this to get the U.F.C here. This could hurt alot of gym's in wi. I do know that the prompter's cant put 10-0 guy's against 0-0 guy's and the promoter's will have to put on a better show. Put dam wasn't there any other way. Health insurance, annual fee's, and more. Why wont doyle sign this bill, the state just got richer off us. Iam sorry put I see only the bigger gym's and venue's making it. I read that they will be charging you according to the size of the city and TICKETT cost. WHAT???? They want to know everything. I do understand why they wanted this. But I wish there was a differant way than going through the goverment!!!!

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Dominic Ciatti said:

	... Honestlty how many "fly by night promotions" are there in this state now? fights and promotions are legit in wisconsin.
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charles gruber said:

... There is a lot of fly by nighters and they no who they are this is the best thing for the sport. the promotions that belong will remain and the ones who dont will be gone. who else is sick off watching fights that are one sided and have at least 1 participent who doesnt belong any where near a ring or cage?Im sure the promotions that are about promoting this sport and not there bank account will be taking care of the the process and fighters like is being done almost every where else.

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Mike Hansen said:

Here we go. Do the same rules apply to ammys? If so ur gonna see lot more people making the "jump to pro" alot sooner than they should. Adversly if the rules do not apply to ammys people are not gonna make that jump simply because they can not afford to. Will I be allowed fight in Wi. seein as how I live in Mi. even though I have only fought in Wi.? How much is this gonna cost the fighters? Also am I the only one who thinks it terrible that someone is gonna make more money off of fighters than they do already. Right now I fight for "high fives and T-shirts" but if I have to get certain insurance and license's, high fives and T-shirts are not gonna cut it. Answers please.

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charles gruber said:

... Beleive me its being done elsewhere and it works. If you are are an amature fighting for a good promotion there going to guide you through this process.And if you train at good gym it will be even easier because there going to have the appropiate info for you as ammy or pro and will assist you through your career.As far as promoters making more money on fighters now thats what they have been doing by stacking the card with ammy fighters and charging 25 100 dollers per ticket.

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Sam Alvey said:

	... Don't worry fellas, the government knows what is best for us lol. I think it must be pretty obvious that us fighters can't tell the difference from a good show worth fighting on and show that puts 10-0 vs 0-0. But don't worry too much I have complete faith in WI fighters, promoters, and coaches we will be the number 1 state in MMA despite the governments all knowing and taxing hand!
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Tank5 said:

Be Optimistic. . . Let me 1st say that I think regulation is a good thing for WI. Especially being WI was 1 of 8 states out of 50 to not have proper MMA regulation. I know ppl get skeptical about the govt. etc., & I understand. As far as promoters having to pay taxes etc. etc., guess what ppl, like any legit bussiness no matter what it is, you have to pay Uncle Sam. Just the way it works Uncle Sam is ALWAYS going to want his cut. That goes for Pro fighters as well. Your responsible for paying taxes on your earnings if it exceeds a certain amount a yr. Some fighters have even received W-2s from promoters. I know, I know, I hate paying taxes too but its the law. Like many fighters who have other jobs, it gets deducted also so why do you expect any different esp if its your main source of income. Don't be like Floyd Mayweahter who did not pay his taxes on his fighter's purses in past & eventually Uncle Sam came a knocking requesting Millions in back taxes(and he wasnt the 1st fighter to neglect to pay his taxes). We also have to realize that this Regulation will not take effect immediatley, there will be a grace period allowed for all parties involved to get their ducks in a row to make the transition. Im sure more info, & wld even reccommend, free semiars will available around the state going into detail with info for promotors, fighters, judges, refs, etc. I think that will be a good idea. As for Insurance, A fighter should have insurance, the argument is whether it be the promoter's responsible or the fighters. I see both sides(maybe wrk out a % split of cost if injury?). On the other hand the Govt side is they do not want fighters being injured seeking medical services(treatment, stitches, ortho surgery), applying for medicaid(public aid) when cause of injury is highly probable given risk of MMA fight participant. No one is invincible, & even minor injuries can result in costly medical bills let alone Major injuries. Anyone knw what the average cost of an MRI on the knee is? If you dont you dont even want to find out, trust me! And finally, but to me most important is fighter safety & fairenss. This is 2010 ppl! We shld all knw by now that a lot of infections & diseases are out there! There is a HIGH risk of blood exchange, HIV, Hepatitis, just to name your top contenders. This is WAY more common than ppl think! Don't even get me started on promotions who dont have a physician examine fighter's exposed skin for & let them compete with Impetigo, Ring Worm, possible MRSA, & Staph wounds! And to all the Roid heads, yeah bye bye!! Proper testing exposes you individuals too making your opponent who busted his/her a$$ training in the gym whose skill set might be very comparbale to yours not lose due to your "extra"-ordinary strength. So all in all, just give it a lil time. By all means continue to ask questions & make your concerns heard! That's my Long 2cents. . .

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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... Well said Tank5....Well said!
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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... For those complaining......Have you read the Bill/Law? R.I.F.
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Sam Alvey said:

... I do look forward to the new regulations, blood work, ect... but I don't see why it is the governments job to make it happen. It should still come down to the fighter/coach deciding if a certain promotion is of high enough quality for them to compete on. There is no reason to assume a promotion couldn't/wouldn't require blood work themselves, if they did it would lead to a higher quality fighter being interested in the promotion to begin with. And don't think that just because the government isn't personally running it they couldn't find a way to tax it. Let them tax us, it's all good, but let us run our own shows. Just becuse 42 other states jumped off a bridge doesn't mean it was a good idea for any of them.

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Tank5 said:

... That is a good point Kazmierczak. Is there a possiblilty WI Combat Sports can get a copy & post it as an article. That way anyone can print it off & gym owners/promoters/fighters etc. can even have the option for their lawyers to review & assist with the interpretation of the Bill/Law. Once again Asking questions & making your concerns is good! In addition, show of hands to how many fighters want to make it to the "Big" shows/organizations like UFC, WEC, Strikeforce etc.? Well guess what, along with that comes regulation, commisions, fighter/judge/ref licenses(which can be revoked),medical insurance, event insurance, taxes, testing etc. So we all might as well get use to the transition MMA is taking legally in WI. But now since passed state MMA Regulation will be implemented in the near future, questions & clarification in forums is good.

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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2009/data/SB-290.pdf
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Gabriel Wahhab said:

	... http://wismmasafety.org/wisconsinmmasafetyact.html See the bill here. we have done an analysis on it already in a previous article. the one posted here may not be the most recent one i think thy had an amendment to make sure tae kwondo, judo, jiu jitsu don't fall under the regulation.
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Tank5 said:

... I hear ya Alvey. . . Although, I dont see it as the govt "personally running the shows." I see it more as the govt. holding promoters, fighters, judges, & refs accountable (and of course taxation & fees for permits, Haha). The promotion & or fight organization still makes the rules for their show as long as they are within the State Guidelines(Safety Issues main concern). The NFL & NBA have age or yrs played in college resrtictions on their prof athletes, yet the government has backed these private organizations to reserve the right to make their own personal decisions. If you have a bussiness, you need a license. And I see this MMA regulation as such. Promoters can still have a 5 fight fightcard or 25 fight fightcard with how ever many Ammys or Pros they want on the card for a given MMA show. The Govt., has no say about that. Correct me if Im wrong but there is no overall langauge mandating that all promotions use unified rules, just for example. Promoter/MMA organizations still call the shots when it comes to their shows(whether a title fight is 5 or 3). Look at Strikeforce, no elbows. Thats their organizational decision. UFC/WEC, Elbows all day long, haha! I feel WI will let the promoters still run their own shows, But if the promoter/fighter is incompliant with the state MMA laws regarding fighter safety &or money owed, then there can be legal action taken which the govt.,(judge/jury) can make a informed & hopefully fair decision based on the state law.

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Stevia said:

	... The government should not make us get blood tests, get insurance, or any of that stuff. If a guy that is 10-0 wants to fight a guy that is 0-0, then who cares. It is a free country. If I want to have knife fights with HIV positive inmates and sell tickets, then screw the government.
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Paul Metz said:

Back to the questions that need to be answered.... Not to repeat myself, but, isn't it a little late to complain? We simply need to get the info needed and move forward. Who is the contact? I want to get my processes started. I am a coach, a manager, promoter and gym owner. Sounds like I have a lot of work ahead of me. I don't want to fall behind or get caught off guard. Give me the name and number and watch me go fellas. No use in fighting it. Get on boeard and let's explode this industry in WI.

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Jesse R said:

	... Iam with you Paul.
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Petrus de Vries said:

... There is nothing wrong with regulating MMA. I just hope that the State is in it for the right reasons and not just for political gain and money. If the State wants to set Rules and Regulations in place, they should also ensure that those Rules and Regulations are attainable by everyone involved. We can talk and argue about this for the next 100 years but I for one do agree that there were some promoters who did some shady things. Insrance for every fighter is maybe pushing it especially if the State is not gonna set forth Rules and Regulations on Insurance Companies about over pricing etc. Let hope and pray that this is not going to become a power struggle between the State and the sport that we all love. Keep in mind the UFC is not going to host a fight night every month, 2 months or 3 months in WI. It might happen once a year or twice a year. Lets just keep politics, polititians and money hungry idiots out of the sport. Give the State a chance to come forward with a plan and then sort out what need to be sorted. Hopefully information will become available soon as to where, when and how to get certified, bloodworks, insurance etc.

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Tank5 said:

Stevia Hmmm. . .This is a Free country as ppl say, however we all have "free-will" it doesnt mean there are consequences to our actions. As for blood testing, if you care not to know that your opponent is HIV or Hepatitis neg or not, thats fine. But the bill is about fighters that wld like to know so they can make a decison to not put themselves at definite exposure. Im getting to the point where Im tired of fighters saying "I'm clean or good," without paperwork test results. Its like sleeping around Never using protection, eventually your gonna get a STD or be expecting a kid 9 months later. As for insurance, you dont want any or have any, I understand I've not had medical insurance before. Uncle Sam is just saying if you get sick, medicaid will help you out but dont partake in a High risk occupational hazard like MMA get hurt & expect the govt to foot all your medical expenses. So make sure you private party ALL your medical bills & pay it yourself since you dont want insurance which is your "free country/free-will" right & you are fully aware of the risk in MMA. Trust me, I knw, have medical bills to show. And if you read the bill it requires promoters to pay for a min amount of medical bills resulting from injury during a fight for their show. Once again the Bill looking out for you the fighter. But thats ok, make sure you deny that money a promoter has to give you IF you get injuried & require lets say something as simple as stitches after a fight. If your 0-0 & fight someone 10-0, not to say u will def loose, but odds are you will loose, but knock yourself out. Good chance a fighter that is a legit battle tested 10-0 will not even waste his/her time with 0-0 opponent. Im in no means Huge on government intervention & Big brother watching, but if its in favor of my safety & the team members of my gym, plus gives my family peace of mind so be it. . .Nevertheless, the Bill is signed. Lets implement it the best way possible for the smoothest transition.

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Stevia said:

	... BS I see schmucks getting smoked by veterans every month. How do you think they get to 10-0? But sometimes it is fun to watch a slob that should not even be in the ring get crushed in 30 seconds by some badass. It is not the Uncle Sam's job to prevent me from watching these bloodbaths.
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Tank5 said:

	Petrus de Vries Very well put. We all are entitled to our opinion. Bottom line, We need more INFO/timetable on transition to being compliant with new WI MMA Regulation. Anyway think informational seminars is a good idea? Various gyms around the state can be host sites where other gyms relatively close can attend.
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tyler greenwood said:

	... I have a family that I don't need to bring anything home to. I love mma.Its rediculous to think you should get a death sentence when it can be avoided.WOW,your way of thinking stevia is the exact reason the sport needs regulating !!
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herbert smith said:

	... USA Boxing and USA Wrestling have insurence as part of thier membership. I think we should have established a national governing body for MMA before we were so hot to trot for Government regulations. As a result we have the regulations boxing and wrestling fall under, but not the NGB to make it possible for people to participate due to out of reach insurence
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Tank5 said:

Greenwood I hear ya Tyler, that is a huge issue my gf had with me fighting. She made a good arguement. But Stevia, the MMA Bill also does not have any language regulating two potential fighters records. Most, & key word is most promoters want quality fights for most true MMA fans. I hate it win I spend hard earned money to see an untrained horrible guy get smashed by a trained fighter. But its your cup of tea, cool. . . These decisions in other states are up to the Athletic comission. For example Brian Bowles was only what 7-0 taking on M.Torees who had over 35 wins & less than 2 loses? Bowles won but the commission looked at his past opps record & his performance(upside) before they approved the title fight.

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Tank5 said:

	Medical Insurance Im going to look into the insurance thing. Almost anyone can get med insurance, but it might suck & not pay for jack(crazy high deductible!), & upon applicant physical, pre-existing conditions wld not be covered. But at least that way you can qualify to fight in the state having medical insurance.
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Savvy said:

... For your Knee, Smart choice MRI, $600 any and all MRI's. I use them all the time and they support MMA. Become educated on the new regulations as they are not going away. Man (or woman) up and lets get on with promoting the sport. It is definitely getting bigger and remember the fighters won't be paying the additional costs, the ticket buyer will. Purses will have to go up, fighters will have to be smarter business wise, and the fans will either accept it or not. The casual fighter may drop out but what is left will definitely be worth paying to see.

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Tank5 said:

	Savvy-MRI WOW $600 that's it!!! That is dirt cheap compared to your normal health care providers. One can save thousands! All the Dr./Ortho specialist office visits leading up to the MRI cost me about $600 itself(you have to see normal Doc 1st, then get refferal to see ortho Doc on a diff day, then get order form Ortho doc for MRI, etc. etc. Thnx for the info!!
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Jameel Massouh said:

... Just for the sake of argument and because Ive said it before. While, I understand the reasons why some people think we should be regulated in wi, my exerience fighting in Japan showed me that there is absolutely no reason for regulation to be needed in order top put on a top-notch show, that is well run, with good saftey measurements. Just look at K-1, Pride, Dream, Sengoku, Pancrase, Tenkachi Fight, Deep, Heat in Nagoya etc. These are all self governed shows that are better quality than most if not all WI shows. I needed blood work for Pancrase even though it was self governed. If its not broken don't try to fix it and I think WI MMA wasn't broken in the first place. Bad shows fail and good shows succeed. While the new regulatory body may turn out to be a good thing, I'll be skeptical until I see it working for the smaller shows and local mma fighters. And before I get accussed of complaining when its too late, I really don't think the comission will be all that bad, I just merely think it is unecessary.

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Sam Alvey said:

... That is what I'm saying Jameel. I agree that blood work and certain things like that are needed but I am against "Uncle Sam" making us do it. For now the regulations may very well be perfect for us but the govt. foot is in the door and for the rest of time now we will be subject to their whims. For now only 1 government man is required to be at the shows to monitor safety but someday they might decide 2 are needed 1 for each locker room. Then they might decide that every show is now going to require that the fighters are given actual locker rooms not just a curtain. And whose to keep any certain gym from getting into bed with certain Govt. people? It's a pandoras box that was just opened in WI and our little shows don't have the political power that the UFC does we are going to be very subject to anything they want to do.

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tyler greenwood said:

	... The only problem with self governing is that who is gonna start it ?? If blood work is SO important (which it is )why have'nt we been doing it all these years? Had Wi. started the process we probably would'nt be having this conversation.Im not slamming Wi. mma because it's top notch, it, like everything else, has room for improvement.Will govt. run mma be the answer;i guess it's a start ?
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Stevia said:

... These guys are right. Japan rules. Watch that shit on DVD, much better than the UFC stuff. Nothing beats Cro Cop kicking a 185 pound asian guy in the face. No pussy government telling them that a 400 lb guy cannot use steroids and beat the living hell out of a guy that weighs 155 lbs and has no fight experience. US needs to leave us alone and stay out of our business. UFC should copy that Pride show if they want $$$. That show is crazy awesome and probably makes way for cash. No drug tests, no rules, more fun.

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tyler greenwood said:

	... That pride show! Yes the ufc owns them now,I could care less what the title of the org. is wec,ufc,pride,dream etc. It needs to be safe.However that is done.No drug test,no rules,failed org. !
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Moriel Charneski said:

	... I'm agreeing with Alveys point of view here. Why should MMA be a goverment run sport? I'm not saying that the blood work/drug testing requirements aren't necessary, but it seems like this just made it possible for everybody but the gyms/fighters to make money off of MMA.
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Mike Hansen said:

	Seriously Stevie you must not be a fighter. If you were I don't think that you be so nonchalant about common sense things like blood testing or roids. I bust my ass trying to be mediocre so the last thing I want is some roid raging lunatic breakin me off cuz he thinks he's the incredible hulk. Also, joke all you want, NOBODY wants HIV dude.
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Brad Schjoth said:

... The sport needs to be regulated to keep it safe. It's fairly simple. Yes, most of the promoters are following the rules that are now going to be required, but I have been to a few shows where that isn't the case. This entire thing is to keep those involved in the best health possible, and to avoid extreme lawsuits. Anyone and everyone competing should be covered by some type of health insurance, and should already be getting blood work done in the first place. I don't know that the government is doing anything to brash here. That's what I draw from it anyway.

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Matt Ineichen said:

... I for one can easily go both ways. I have put my time in so far trained for over three years plus when a kid was in karate for a year til my mom got ill. Also started wrestling since eighth grade and been to alot of camps and out of season tourneys. Anyways fighting for two years been in 13 total fights and some where opp. backed out due to what ever was the reason. I've been fighting pro for over a year with a 5 wins and 3 loses. The only reason i bring this up is so people know i know what im talking about and not being an arm chair quarterback. I can see why alot of fighters dislike the bill. Because there are some ammy fighters and pro fighter me being one of them that is sucks for people like me, brian learn and more to name im sure that just want to fight cause you love to do it and sometimes that your way of income for now due to the economy. But with that said i do feel as tho this sucks but there will be good coming out of this cause now you know only the true fighters will keep pushing forward and the other fighters that arent there for the right reason will disapear due to tougher regulations to get med. insur., blood testing and etc. I could easily complain just like some have on this already but lets all just make the best of it and like i said not trying to piss people off but if you a true mix martial artist then this is only a test of how much you want it and how far your will to go to keep training and learning the arts you love and end result displaying it in your fight. I also agree for the blood testing cause nobody wants to get stds, aids, funk(ring worm etc.), and keep people from cheating steriods, blood doping and etc. What you put in is what you put out. This sport is not meant for the weak hearted and cheaters. Otherwise everybody would be doing it. Also i agree with charles gruber there are some shady promotions out there that truely dont care for the participants that is why the bill was to protect stupid people like me being one of them. Also would like to say i do agree with people shouldnt be aloud to put a guy with a record with 3-1 guy against a guy who is 20-2. But it also is not fair to people that have put there time in and maybe fight two three times a year and not ten times a year. Some fighter fight when ready and some fight when they get the chance to. I think it is good but also bad because its for the other fighters saftey but thats why we have a ref. and give the under dog the the chance. But with that said nobody is forcing the fighter to getting in there we go in on our on will. All in all the bill has its pros and cons. Pros -protecting fighters from shady prom. -helping to eliminate lopped sided fights -better shows -protect the fighter by making them get tested for drugs and diseases Cons -not giving the under dog a chance to display is talent -will lose some ammy fighters and pros due to med. expenses -need a job when training -pay more taxes so now fighting for free But all in all this will be a test to how bad you want it and will only make you a better person and keep you safe cause we all want to fight but we all want to stay in one piece for our familys and loved ones. For all the fighters and coaches don't let this bill get you down even tho i dont agree for some of it. It is for the best and for our futures if we do try and pursue fighting and not only for fighting but for our loved ones sake. So they know we will be safe and if your that worried your going to get hurt dont fight or train then cause nobody is forcing you. Wish the best to all WI fighters all ammy and pro fighters and coaches and gyms i hope to keep improving and hope the best for all.

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Funny said:

Big Surprise Things were fine the way they were. This is only good for 1 show and we all know whos that is. No matter how good or bad a show is or was, fighters, fans, and all others always had a choice to be involved, or not to be involved. Thats why the bad shows eventualy go away. This regulation will be used by 1 show to get rid of all others, even the good ones that exist. Boo and hiss to everyone associated with this comming to WI MMA. Shame on you!

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Stevia said:

... I agree, things were better the way they were. We all know that no show is going to do blood tests, steroid screening, etc. unless the stupid government makes them. But who cares, that shits for pussies. We want our fighting cheap and fun, not that UFC bullshit. I saw better fights at this show in the back of this bar last year, than the UFC. Dudes were swinging for the fences and knocking fools out. I'd rather spend $10 on a fun show like that, than have to support these extra BS government rules that will up my ticket prices.

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Sam Alvey said:

... Listen Stevia it is pretty obvious now that you are either just writing stuff to get a reaction or you really have no idea what MMA is. Either way you need to stop writing things, you are making the real fighters on this site look bad. To say things were better... makes no sense because things haven't changed yet. To not want blood work again means you're either talking out of you a$$ or you have some sort of HIV and you want to keep making your show up money in the back rooms of bar fights. To say you saw better fights in the back of some bar than the UFC just proves that you have no idea what a talented fighter is. Please stop your rantings the grown ups are talking now.

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Stevia said:

... Not 'better', but more exciting. Mayweather is the best boxer out there, but he is not exciting. Only way shows are going to do blood tests and drug tests are if they are forced to, bottom line. The small shows can't afford, so if you want your small shows the way they are you have to say no to these regulations the government wants. Unless you are the UFC, then you will never 'self-regulate', because of costs. So either support the government regulation like a communist, or watch some Glen Beck like me, and say no to regulation. Be a real American. Blood tests aren't happening unless evil Uncle Sam makes us, dude.

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tyler greenwood said:

	... good call Sam
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Red Schafer said:

	... Heehee... Nothing beats watching a good political argument. Republicans versus Democrats versus Libertarians (now we just need some Communists). I'm going to pop some popcorn, sit back, and watch the fireworks...
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Tim said:

... First, for your health, and the health of those around you, you should be tested. That is just good to do. Hell, if you're not mature enough to get that down, you might want to reconsider fighting. You are naive, and stupid, to think you are safe from disease. When I was fighting I got tested on my own for my own sanity. I do think it sucks that fighters have to provide their own insurance. Especially in these economic times and when many small businesses are cutting out health care for employees. Hopefully there will be options. I also think this benefits certain shows. However, if you are a promoter that was against this, it was your responsibility to get involved in the bill. Well organized shows will survive. It is not like this has came in under the radar. This has been well publicized in the WI MMA community, so anyone against this has had plenty of time to jump on the Dave Bengel wagon to stop this from happening.

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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... Funny..... if this is only good for 1 show how do you explain the support by Pat, Duke, Scott and Adam? There's at 3-4 homegrown WI orgs represented right there? Try collecting a few facts before recklessly speculating!
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February 07, 2010
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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... http://wicombatsports.com/2009...nials.html
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Mark said:

... Wow, settle down boys. First off, The only real thing this bill did was give permission to the state to make a commission or basically include MMA with the boxing commission. Hector Colon, the state's boxing commissioner, has agreed to basically hold an industry wide meeting at some point to make sure everyone's opinion is heard. He is not looking to exclude anyone from fighting MMA (at least within reason). He is taking this job VERY seriously and he wants to make sure that everything goes through smoothly. When I talked to him at the signing, he assured me that we would not be another Illinois and that we would get it done right. Believe me, they just want what is best for the sport, and they will make sure that everyone is heard.

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Funny said:

Well, if Hector says it... Seriously? We have such a great boxing commission that there are major title fights held here all the time. This whole thing is a joke. Lets just be honest here. This is gunna cost more money for promoters therefore putting most out of business. The greedy state just wants its cut, like the taxes we pay arent enough. And Jason, being from the school in question, it doesnt surprise me that you are all for it. I'm sure you, and everyone else from Mil-town, would jump off a bridge if a certain "Coach of the Year" said it was a good idea. I'm all for blood testing and fair matchups but the state interviening is not the answer. If you dont care for shows like Strasser's and others like the ones in question, dont get involved and then encourage others to stay away also. Thats the way to regulate this sport.

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Mike Hansen said:

What about the rez? What if shows are on a reservation?(KOTC) I highly doubt that KOTC will come back to WI. if they can't "just fill in slots" like they are used to doing. Also the insurance issue could be resolved in a few different ways. I've heard of shows that offer insurance to fighters for like $20-$30 for a one time shot. Not sure how it worked but it seems like a good idea. When my employer found out that I was fighting they booted me off of their insurance. I like the blood work thing though, that's just good stuff, but man that could get expensive. We'll see...

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Tim said:

... Kaz - I didn't explain myself well enough. I was trying to get at this benefits well organized shows like KTK, Whatever gladiators is called now, Freestyle Combat (even though I think Dave is against it) and Nick's show, etc. These are shows that already (I think for the most part) try to do everything short of the testing to make the fights fair and exciting and are legitimately concerned about fighters well being. These organizations will pony up for whatever it takes to keep their shows running. We might not be able to see as many per year, but I think this will be good.

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Jason Kazmierczak said:

... Funny......you seem to have some pent up issues there......take a breath. You must have missed the part in my post where I pointed out that SEVERAL promoters from SEVERAL shows around the state have openly supported this bill becoming a law. The guys that run the Madtown Throwdown, Combat USA, WFC, USFC, and other promotions attended the hearings, participated in the process and spoke in favor of this legislation....math was never my best class in school but that seems to add up to more than 1 show reeping benefit. You can stream the audio of thier support from links right on this very site. I think Tim is correct, that the shows that are WELL ORGANIZED and have been operating with the BEST INTERESTS OF THE FIGHTERS in mind will be far less impacted by the new rules. Mike mentions the Reservations in his post and I believe they wouldn't be impacted by SB-290 as an Indian Reservation is considered 'Soverein Land' (sp?) and wouldn't be subject to the lesislation.......There are reservations in CA that had been running shows for years before & after the state regulation that have put on both great shows, the freak show match ups , and shows that end in all out biker brawls.

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Funny said:

	Pent up issues? Take a breath? You might want to recheck with those other promotions you mentioned. I pretty sure, in fact I'm positive, you dont speak for them.
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Paul Metz said:

	Who are these guys?? Anyone else notice how the guys that are talking the most smack don't give their real names. Listen, if you have something to say that has any merit, whether pro or con, have the stones to give us your real name. Don't hide behind an alias. It just shows how weak your position really is. Stay tuned for more info to come. The process is still working its way out.
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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... http://www.wbay.com/global/story.asp?s=11929510 Mixed Martial Arts Law Expected to Boost Safety and Economy "We think it's going to be great for the fighters, great for the fans. It's a win-win for everybody," Combat USA promoter Adam Sandoval said.
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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... http://wicombatsports.com/2009...ials.html Testimonials From Tuesday's Public Hearing Pat O’Malley, co-owner of Madtown Throwdown and Chosen Few Gym, stood in front of the lawmakers and stated that he and Ron Faircloth “absolutely, 100 percent, embrace this bill”.
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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... http://wicombatsports.com/2009...tk-27.html Thao Makes Triumphant Return, Befera Extends Win Streak at KTK 27 Corey Christophersen said: ......I was one of the first people approched by the people involved in trying to get the sport sanctioned in WI. I am one of a handful of people on the "Commitee to Support the Regulation of MMA in WI".
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Sam Alvey said:

	... ahhh snap!
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Funny said:

All before the bill was finalized. Ask them all now. Blanket statements are well and good when your being forced to play by someone elses rules and you dont want to be seen as an outcast. Ask their real opinions off the record, then try and cut and paste. Anyone who doesnt believe this only helps 1 promotion is still in denial. Paul Metz, the point of an anonymous opinion forum, is to state your anonymous opinion.

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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... Denial huh????? You seem familiar with the concept!
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Funny said:

	??? You must not understand what the word "denial" means. How many of those promoters you have mentioned commented positivly in this thread? I think you are the one in denial.
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Douglas Moore said:

... Replying to Mr. Hansen's comment about having the fights on Native American Reservations. Out of the 9 reservations in Wisconsin 8 are known as PL 280 Reservations or Public Law reservations which means they are subject to all the laws in Wisconsin and the state has enforcement powers on those reservations. There is only one reservation in Wisconsin that does not fall under Public law 280 and that is the Menominee Reservation which falls under Federal Statutes and is not subject to Wisconsin law but that is only if you are Native American. If you are non-Native on the Menominee Reservation you still fall under the jurisdiction of the State of Wisconsin.

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Mark said:

... Hey Funny, I am/was also on the committee for regulating MMA. Pat, Ron, Duke, Adam Sandoval, Cory, etc......all had access to and commented on what would be the final bill. At the point of that public hearing that everyone is quoting, the final version of the bill was being discussed. So yeah, they were all on board with the final bill. Now, there was one small amendment made by the senate, and that was basically making sure we didn't include all Martial arts under this bill, thus becoming another Illinois that can't even hold a damn grappling tourney. So yes, there will be some Government intervention on certain things. Yes, the shows that already play by the rules will not really be affected by the laws, aside from having to pay for a few licenses. But wow, you are really jumping the gun on this whole thing. Give it a chance. Almost everyone who plays a major role in MMA in WI stood up and said yes to this. And they are going to get a chance to speak their minds again when the industry wide public hearing happens. So, make sure you show up and voice your concerns then.

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Funny said:

	Sounds good Already planned on it, thanks Mark.
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Jason Kazmierczak said:

	... Yep.......
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DVerbs said:

	Just Fight If you love fighting and love being a fighter, quit babbling, get insurance, get bloodwork, and get in the gym. otherwise sell your stuff and watch it on t.v.
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Michael Broderick said:

	... Mr. Moore is very, very mistaken. All one needs to do is look at the recent regulation of smoking in bars and taverns in the state and see what is going to transpire on reservation land. MB
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Douglas Moore said:

	... Mr. Broderick: What exactly am I wrong about? I realize you work for the casino but my field of expertise in federal and state authority and enforcement of laws on reservation lands is by far more than you have, so please share with me what I am wrong about?
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The dungeon said:

... So let me get this right........ Now that this bill is in the process of being written all of the negative comments come out? I was at all of the preliminary hearings and was able to voice my opinion, and also hear/ talk with many of the other promoters/gym owners in the state. Not one person in attendance was opposed. So now here we are on the brink of something that is not only good for the fans but for the fighters, not to mention the sport, in the state, as a whole; and now we have gripes. Now we have some controversy? If all of these opinions, anonymous or not, were things that were felt so strongly about then why weren't they addressed in Madison? Too far away? I drove from Peshtigo to make sure that my voice was heard and to make sure that things were going to be as they said they were going to be and they were. They still are! I understand that there is a lot of fine print and kinks that need to be ironed out but keep in mind this is all for the best. Yes it will cost more for the shows but the shows will be run right. Now they will have some type of merit. As of right now we have only a hand full of fighters, from this state, that have made it to the next level and that is for a reason. We are over looked as a dominate state in this country, in this sport mainly because we aren't regulated. Why would the powers that be in the UFC or WEC care about someone with a 10-0 record (respectfully) if on the way to that amazing record there was no structure? If there was no governing body to make sure that the fights were against deserving opponents with similar records and skill. Think about it, how else can we gain national respect? On the post about how this will take the fans away from the smaller shows, I don't see that happening. Do you really think that the Vegas shows are all sold out by local fans? That being said do you realize how many local shows you can attend for one ticket in the UFC? If I had the chance, as a fan, to watch a local talent up in coming before I have to pay thousands of dollars for a seat to watch him in the UFC you better believe I would do it. This Combat USA tournament is a prime example of that. We now get a chance to watch local, great, fighters before they are a part of a larger system that is out our hands. We get a chance to pay a minimal amount for a ticket to watch someone that has a very good chance of being a professional fighter that we all have to travel many states , pay per view, or hope that the UFC/WEC is close by just to watch. I think that we are all at a point of confusion with what is going on, and for good reason. The people on capitol hill are there to do a job and are suppose to do what's right for us as a whole, as a group, and ultimately as a team. Yes we all fight against other gyms but don't we all have the same goals in mind? The same future plans in mind? and the same dreams? This commission is going to bring us all closer to that and the sooner we all realize that, and embrace it, we can all be a part of enforcing it. thank you for your time Ryan Wortner

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Michael Broderick said:

	... Mr. Moore, Hummm. OK, your right, I have no idea of what I(or you for that matter,) am talking about and you are much more versed in federal and Tribal law than I. (And we shall see, but in the end dont let me tell you I told you so). MB
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Michael Broderick said:

... Wait. You know what, Mr. Moore deserves a better response than the one I just gave, so I apologize for that Mr. Moore. I did not mean to have an offensive tone. Mr. Moore is correct when he states the law in regards to law enforcement on the reservations when it comes to individuals and criminal law, as Mr. Moore was a PO on the Menominee Reservation and he is interpreting the law from that application, however he is incorrect when it comes to regulatory and state to state relations as what he interprets and states is not applicable to this topic. A great example is the new smoking ban in Wisco. It is not enforceable or applicable on reservation land when dealing with federally recognized, sovereign tribes, just as this new law will also be not enforceable or applicable. MB

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Douglas Moore said:

... Mr. Broderick please just tell me what I am wrong about. My point in my original post was the jurisdicition the State and Federal government has on reservations and which reservations are subject to State laws and which ones are subject to Federal laws only, and how that may or may not affect the enforcement of the the MMA legistlation. You claim I am mistaken I am just curious as to what I am mistaken about? I certainly don't want to get away from the main point of the MMA Regulation Bill that was just passed for Wisconsin.

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Douglas Moore said:

... Mr. Broderick: You make a very valid point and you are correct when it comes to the confusion of what is enforceable on reservation lands whether it is a criminal invevstigation, regulatory enforcement, or civil enforcement. Thank you for the clarification of your point. I still think there will be mass confusion on what can and will be enforced on the reservations. As you are well aware Mr. Broderick when you get the state or federal government involved with enforcement actions on Native American lands the waters become quite murky and a person can get opinions that vary depending on what government official you ask. I certainly didn't take your post as disrespectful I think it was just a tad bit of confusion because we were looking at the same subject from two different perspectives.

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tyler greenwood said:

	... At alot of shows recently I have noticed fighters (primarily ammy) coming in well over the weight class they are fighting in. Will the new laws have any effect on that ? Thank you
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Michael Broderick said:

	... Mr. Moore, Agreed. I personally think what eventually will happen is that each tribe will form their own commission, or allow an existing tribal commission complete oversight of sporting events on reservation land, therefore protecting the Tribe and their sovereignty. MB
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Jason Kazmierczak said:

... I didn't see the details on missing weight in the WI Law yet....it may be one of the details they still need to work out.....Heres what Nevada does.....Many states have used the NV regulation as somewhat of a guideline.... Nevada NAC 467.522 Forfeiture for failure to make weight. (NRS 467.030) 1. An unarmed combatant who fails to make the weight agreed upon in his bout agreement forfeits: (a) Twenty-five percent of his purse if no lesser amount is set by the Commission’s representative; or (b) A lesser amount set by the Executive Director and approved by the Commission, Ê unless the weight difference is 1 pound or less. 2. A forfeit must be divided equally between the other unarmed combatant and the Commission. 3. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 3 of NAC 467.476 and subsection 2 of NAC 467.7956, if, during the 1 hour following the time of weighing in, an unarmed combatant is able to make the weight or weighs 1 pound or less outside the agreed limits, no forfeit may be imposed or fine assessed upon him.

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Jimmy said:

	To many ?????? Yes, we have fights commig up too and we need to get these things in order, where when how Questions, wwho to contact??? By when??Where can we find this information ??
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Douglas Moore said:

... Wisconsin Department of License and Regulation is in charge of the licenses for fighters, managers, promoters. I would suggest to keep checking their website for information on when and how to get licensed. They are great people to work with but in the dark just as much as we all are, they indicated it will be months before they have all the paperwork in order to start the testing process to issues the appropriate licenses.

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